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		<title>By: Misha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Misha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve switched to Costco myself. Walmart is evil. Read &lt;a&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; if still in doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve switched to Costco myself. Walmart is evil. Read <a>this article</a> if still in doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Serje</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2009/01/26/wal-mart-really-is-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-34447</link>
		<dc:creator>Serje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hadn&#039;t seen this thread yet. Almost 1 year later...

Here is something I have yet to see discussed. True, there are all the mom and pop places that cannot compete with the new Walmart in town. But, think about the operational costs of a Walmart location. There is a lot of equipment in a Walmart; freezers, refrigerators, tons of HVAC on the roof, plumbing, floor scrubbers, registers, etc... Skilled labor that cannot be outsourced to China.

I work for a company that manufactures a product that Walmart uses at their stores, and we are also a service provider. I cannot get specific, but you would not believe the lengths they will go through to get lower pricing. From straight up bullying and contract bidding manipulation to weird distribution triangles that take advantage of tax loopholes. They have bean counters paid to scrutinize every contract to see how they can squeeze a little more blood out of the turnip. Every time a contract comes around, it&#039;s tougher to figure out how you&#039;re going to do it. There are a lot of US brands that you can find at Walmart too. A couple of NC manufacturers, off the top of my head, are Neese&#039;s in Greensboro and Cott Beverage in Wilson. I know their ilk.

If there is a hell;
it is meeting a manufacturing volume deadline,
it is working overnight, no raise in sight, just to get it done,
it is driving to Georgia, because a store manager has a floor emergency,
it is pushing a shopping cart full of tools through a sea of fatties who won&#039;t move
it is sleepless, monotonous, anxious
IT IS UNITS, that&#039;s all you are to Walmart, UNITS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadn&#8217;t seen this thread yet. Almost 1 year later&#8230;</p>
<p>Here is something I have yet to see discussed. True, there are all the mom and pop places that cannot compete with the new Walmart in town. But, think about the operational costs of a Walmart location. There is a lot of equipment in a Walmart; freezers, refrigerators, tons of HVAC on the roof, plumbing, floor scrubbers, registers, etc&#8230; Skilled labor that cannot be outsourced to China.</p>
<p>I work for a company that manufactures a product that Walmart uses at their stores, and we are also a service provider. I cannot get specific, but you would not believe the lengths they will go through to get lower pricing. From straight up bullying and contract bidding manipulation to weird distribution triangles that take advantage of tax loopholes. They have bean counters paid to scrutinize every contract to see how they can squeeze a little more blood out of the turnip. Every time a contract comes around, it&#8217;s tougher to figure out how you&#8217;re going to do it. There are a lot of US brands that you can find at Walmart too. A couple of NC manufacturers, off the top of my head, are Neese&#8217;s in Greensboro and Cott Beverage in Wilson. I know their ilk.</p>
<p>If there is a hell;<br />
it is meeting a manufacturing volume deadline,<br />
it is working overnight, no raise in sight, just to get it done,<br />
it is driving to Georgia, because a store manager has a floor emergency,<br />
it is pushing a shopping cart full of tools through a sea of fatties who won&#8217;t move<br />
it is sleepless, monotonous, anxious<br />
IT IS UNITS, that&#8217;s all you are to Walmart, UNITS.</p>
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		<title>By: Serje</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2009/01/26/wal-mart-really-is-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-34446</link>
		<dc:creator>Serje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every penny we spend with any company tells them how to operate. A thumbs up with a purchase or a thumbs down by giving money to a competitor. We all have the right, and most people do it ignorantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every penny we spend with any company tells them how to operate. A thumbs up with a purchase or a thumbs down by giving money to a competitor. We all have the right, and most people do it ignorantly.</p>
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		<title>By: MrDoughnut</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2009/01/26/wal-mart-really-is-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-34335</link>
		<dc:creator>MrDoughnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some times I get lucky an visit the right sites which expose info you can&#039;t just find normally.

The data is free but I do not know the laws on copying and pasting certain data like published addresses and phone numbers or if there is a copyright on certain data.

If the verifiable data keeps pointing to one person and the info seems to be accurate it could just be that person!

Too bad the telemarketing discs are no longer in stores because of the Do not call list. They are published addresses and phone numbers an some time they include the fax number. Sometimes the property doesn&#039;t change hands but the phone number changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some times I get lucky an visit the right sites which expose info you can&#8217;t just find normally.</p>
<p>The data is free but I do not know the laws on copying and pasting certain data like published addresses and phone numbers or if there is a copyright on certain data.</p>
<p>If the verifiable data keeps pointing to one person and the info seems to be accurate it could just be that person!</p>
<p>Too bad the telemarketing discs are no longer in stores because of the Do not call list. They are published addresses and phone numbers an some time they include the fax number. Sometimes the property doesn&#8217;t change hands but the phone number changed.</p>
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		<title>By: MrDoughnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrDoughnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once your terminated winning an appeal means nothing to the District Home Office. 

I do not know for sure if the main office in Bentinville would investigate and fire the rogue Walmart managers from the District Home Office down to the store where the wrongful terminations took place 

I found the following data on the web an supposedly it was verified by matching name and address reguired in political contributions and a pettition against some group. I&#039;ll have to also check an old telemarketing Disc to see if the data is on there as well. Supposedly this is the CEO matched against several lists!

To find the websites with this data type in your browser: 16 Pinnacle Dr  Rogers  AR

You should get:  Michael Duke 16 Pinnacle Dr Rogers AR on a website.
Using AOL whitepages the data as typed will get you : Name ,Address, and Phone.
This number is a published number from AOL White Pages but it probably has an answering machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once your terminated winning an appeal means nothing to the District Home Office. </p>
<p>I do not know for sure if the main office in Bentinville would investigate and fire the rogue Walmart managers from the District Home Office down to the store where the wrongful terminations took place </p>
<p>I found the following data on the web an supposedly it was verified by matching name and address reguired in political contributions and a pettition against some group. I&#8217;ll have to also check an old telemarketing Disc to see if the data is on there as well. Supposedly this is the CEO matched against several lists!</p>
<p>To find the websites with this data type in your browser: 16 Pinnacle Dr  Rogers  AR</p>
<p>You should get:  Michael Duke 16 Pinnacle Dr Rogers AR on a website.<br />
Using AOL whitepages the data as typed will get you : Name ,Address, and Phone.<br />
This number is a published number from AOL White Pages but it probably has an answering machine.</p>
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		<title>By: MrDoughnut</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2009/01/26/wal-mart-really-is-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-34333</link>
		<dc:creator>MrDoughnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note they use an outside firm to represent them against persons they have fired for misconduct. They won&#039;t show up at the Appeals Tribunal hearing if they know their case won&#039;t pass muster. They must realize if it gets hire up in the process they will be facing a real judge who can order back pay and front pay ect.

The District Home Office doesn&#039;t except the Appeals Tribunal Decision in favor of the fire worker instead they only repeat their side of the story and refuse to re-instate the employee. It&#039;s obvious they are ignoring the fact that their termination of the employee could be considered unlawful under the title Wrongful Discharge or Wrongful Termination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note they use an outside firm to represent them against persons they have fired for misconduct. They won&#8217;t show up at the Appeals Tribunal hearing if they know their case won&#8217;t pass muster. They must realize if it gets hire up in the process they will be facing a real judge who can order back pay and front pay ect.</p>
<p>The District Home Office doesn&#8217;t except the Appeals Tribunal Decision in favor of the fire worker instead they only repeat their side of the story and refuse to re-instate the employee. It&#8217;s obvious they are ignoring the fact that their termination of the employee could be considered unlawful under the title Wrongful Discharge or Wrongful Termination.</p>
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		<title>By: RT</title>
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		<dc:creator>RT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of curiosity, Joe, which MalWart did you work at? I mean, in what city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity, Joe, which MalWart did you work at? I mean, in what city?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe McBains</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2009/01/26/wal-mart-really-is-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-34151</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe McBains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked at Wal-Mart. Boring and tedious do not even approach the job description. The job was vile and viperish. I hated it with all my heart.

My nightmare is to wake up and find myself still working there. A job where the wages are lousy. Where the people are mean and miserable. Where the managers scream at me for no reason. And where the opportunity for advancement doesn&#039;t exist at all.

It is not a career job. There is absolutely no chance to get ahead or to improve in it. It&#039;s kind of job that high-school graduates work for a few weeks before going off to University. Not an occupation designed for life-long employment.

Also, every Wal-Mart is virtually the same. Pretty much every last one. The same boring design. The same weird interiors. The same horrible people.

I felt desolate working in the one I was employed in. It was bland and devoid of feeling. Every Wal-Mart I have entered has this same unrestful atmosphere about it. If evil can be felt, I guess it feels like this. Like the heavy cloying air over Saudi Arabia when I visited there. Heavy without the promise of hope.

Am I making too much of this? You tell me. I talked to one lady who worked at my town&#039;s  Wal-Mart for an amazing seven years. (They&#039;ve fired most of the people who used to work there.) This lady said working at Wal-Mart has changed her as a person. She looks at people very differently now. She hates them. The constant shouting of her bosses has torn her nerves apart.

Wal-Mart often forces her to work through her coffee breaks. They force her to work overtime without pay. Her kids tried to work for Wal-Mart. The manager personally fired each one of them within the same month. She hates her managers, but is afraid to speak up. People get fired so easily at Wal-Mart, it&#039;s almost funny. 

My own experience pretty much mirrors her own. Only I didn&#039;t last nearly so long. My own employment with Wal-Mart lasted only two months. I am glad to say that it didn&#039;t make me hate people. But I was well on the road to doing so. 

I was a rather difficult employee, happy to say. I gave them trouble before I went. Interesting, they will not give me a reference. I&#039;m grateful for that. But weirdly, they won&#039;t give anyone a reference. Even the good workers. It&#039;s their policy. And quite a handycap, too. If i gave the best 7 years of my life to Wal-Mart, I&#039;d expect some acknowledgement for that.

Just another way they abuse the workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked at Wal-Mart. Boring and tedious do not even approach the job description. The job was vile and viperish. I hated it with all my heart.</p>
<p>My nightmare is to wake up and find myself still working there. A job where the wages are lousy. Where the people are mean and miserable. Where the managers scream at me for no reason. And where the opportunity for advancement doesn&#8217;t exist at all.</p>
<p>It is not a career job. There is absolutely no chance to get ahead or to improve in it. It&#8217;s kind of job that high-school graduates work for a few weeks before going off to University. Not an occupation designed for life-long employment.</p>
<p>Also, every Wal-Mart is virtually the same. Pretty much every last one. The same boring design. The same weird interiors. The same horrible people.</p>
<p>I felt desolate working in the one I was employed in. It was bland and devoid of feeling. Every Wal-Mart I have entered has this same unrestful atmosphere about it. If evil can be felt, I guess it feels like this. Like the heavy cloying air over Saudi Arabia when I visited there. Heavy without the promise of hope.</p>
<p>Am I making too much of this? You tell me. I talked to one lady who worked at my town&#8217;s  Wal-Mart for an amazing seven years. (They&#8217;ve fired most of the people who used to work there.) This lady said working at Wal-Mart has changed her as a person. She looks at people very differently now. She hates them. The constant shouting of her bosses has torn her nerves apart.</p>
<p>Wal-Mart often forces her to work through her coffee breaks. They force her to work overtime without pay. Her kids tried to work for Wal-Mart. The manager personally fired each one of them within the same month. She hates her managers, but is afraid to speak up. People get fired so easily at Wal-Mart, it&#8217;s almost funny. </p>
<p>My own experience pretty much mirrors her own. Only I didn&#8217;t last nearly so long. My own employment with Wal-Mart lasted only two months. I am glad to say that it didn&#8217;t make me hate people. But I was well on the road to doing so. </p>
<p>I was a rather difficult employee, happy to say. I gave them trouble before I went. Interesting, they will not give me a reference. I&#8217;m grateful for that. But weirdly, they won&#8217;t give anyone a reference. Even the good workers. It&#8217;s their policy. And quite a handycap, too. If i gave the best 7 years of my life to Wal-Mart, I&#8217;d expect some acknowledgement for that.</p>
<p>Just another way they abuse the workers.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is that simple!!!  if your job didnt pay you enough you would seek out someone who would.  That simple! How much should  a high school kid make? There are laws that say the least amount of money we can pay employees.  Dont get pissy with walmart or other retail stores for following the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is that simple!!!  if your job didnt pay you enough you would seek out someone who would.  That simple! How much should  a high school kid make? There are laws that say the least amount of money we can pay employees.  Dont get pissy with walmart or other retail stores for following the law.</p>
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