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	<title>Comments on: At Home with the Barnraisers</title>
	<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Grove Project &#187; Soup to Nuts: Live&#8217;s First Concert</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-13492</link>
		<dc:creator>The Grove Project &#187; Soup to Nuts: Live&#8217;s First Concert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] folk-grass trio, the Barnraisers. You can check them out at www.barnraisersmusic.com, and listen to an older interview with them right here on The Grove Project.    This entry by david was posted on Thursday, June 26th, 2008 and is filed under Living, News [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] folk-grass trio, the Barnraisers. You can check them out at <a href="http://www.barnraisersmusic.com," rel="nofollow">http://www.barnraisersmusic.com,</a> and listen to an older interview with them right here on The Grove Project.    This entry by david was posted on Thursday, June 26th, 2008 and is filed under Living, News [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: editor</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9178</link>
		<dc:creator>editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9178</guid>
		<description>Can't wait, D. Great, great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait, D. Great, great.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9177</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9177</guid>
		<description>Ok ok ok... Note to bloggers: I bite when provoked...  Yes, my skin is a little thin... something I'll have to work on. 

More importantly to the Grove, an interview with local jazz trio, Sci-Fi,  is coming soon... (very MMW-esque with strong shades of Herbie Hancock)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok ok ok&#8230; Note to bloggers: I bite when provoked&#8230;  Yes, my skin is a little thin&#8230; something I&#8217;ll have to work on. </p>
<p>More importantly to the Grove, an interview with local jazz trio, Sci-Fi,  is coming soon&#8230; (very MMW-esque with strong shades of Herbie Hancock)</p>
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		<title>By: editor</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9173</link>
		<dc:creator>editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9173</guid>
		<description>God luv ya, Shea - Was going to suggest the Grovey Prize to the first dog (dawg?) in this fight to show the pink belly. Thank you very much. -ed. -- and I don't mean back-downish-ness, I mean grace.

Those Barnraisers are raisin' some &lt;i&gt;barn&lt;/i&gt;, boy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God luv ya, Shea - Was going to suggest the Grovey Prize to the first dog (dawg?) in this fight to show the pink belly. Thank you very much. -ed. &#8212; and I don&#8217;t mean back-downish-ness, I mean grace.</p>
<p>Those Barnraisers are raisin&#8217; some <i>barn</i>, boy!</p>
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		<title>By: shea carver</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9172</link>
		<dc:creator>shea carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9172</guid>
		<description>again, david, you're making inferences that are unfounded when referring to my response: i never said you were from up north, out west, from the other side of the country or from outer space. nor was i attempting to make a "mockery of your background." i was attempting to mock the stereotype you inferred upon my dialect: "borderline backwoods," which are your words, not mine--which reads ostentatiously, regardless of where you live.

i simply responded to what i consider a jab. and when jabs fly, well, sometimes right hooks follow. no matter how you explain the statement, it comes across snarky. so i wouldn't point fingers at how my response has nothing to do with the interview itself, considering your critique of my writing is leading the question—if not judging it—and does not prove objective in the overall scheme of things. 

regardless, i hold no grudges. in fact, i am sure you and i could get along just fine whether we're drinking moonshine or fine wine, eating collards or wasabi peas, sitting on the front porch in the mountains of NC or NY --if only because we do have a common ground: we both love the barnraiser's music, and, well, that will give us something to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, david, you&#8217;re making inferences that are unfounded when referring to my response: i never said you were from up north, out west, from the other side of the country or from outer space. nor was i attempting to make a &#8220;mockery of your background.&#8221; i was attempting to mock the stereotype you inferred upon my dialect: &#8220;borderline backwoods,&#8221; which are your words, not mine&#8211;which reads ostentatiously, regardless of where you live.</p>
<p>i simply responded to what i consider a jab. and when jabs fly, well, sometimes right hooks follow. no matter how you explain the statement, it comes across snarky. so i wouldn&#8217;t point fingers at how my response has nothing to do with the interview itself, considering your critique of my writing is leading the question—if not judging it—and does not prove objective in the overall scheme of things. </p>
<p>regardless, i hold no grudges. in fact, i am sure you and i could get along just fine whether we&#8217;re drinking moonshine or fine wine, eating collards or wasabi peas, sitting on the front porch in the mountains of NC or NY &#8211;if only because we do have a common ground: we both love the barnraiser&#8217;s music, and, well, that will give us something to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9171</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9171</guid>
		<description>Catherine, thank you for so eloquently putting into words what I, and I imagine other GP contributors, have been thinking. The GP is an open public forum, and contributors should be prepared to accept that not every reader is going to agree with or like what they have to say. But the GP is also -- no, it is &lt;i&gt;primarily&lt;/i&gt; -- a place for members within our community to connect with one another and share news, events, and cool things that are happening.

I have heard other GP contributors say they no longer want to post on the site for fear they may be ridiculed! Ouch. That makes me so sad. I want to hear from lots of fellow Wilmingtonians not just the ones brave enough to bear the threat of public censure.   

Do I dare push the submit button? Have I offended anyone? Is everythhing spelled correctly? O.K. Deep breath, here I go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine, thank you for so eloquently putting into words what I, and I imagine other GP contributors, have been thinking. The GP is an open public forum, and contributors should be prepared to accept that not every reader is going to agree with or like what they have to say. But the GP is also &#8212; no, it is <i>primarily</i> &#8212; a place for members within our community to connect with one another and share news, events, and cool things that are happening.</p>
<p>I have heard other GP contributors say they no longer want to post on the site for fear they may be ridiculed! Ouch. That makes me so sad. I want to hear from lots of fellow Wilmingtonians not just the ones brave enough to bear the threat of public censure.   </p>
<p>Do I dare push the submit button? Have I offended anyone? Is everythhing spelled correctly? O.K. Deep breath, here I go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9170</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9170</guid>
		<description>I agree, Catherine - I think the flames leapt too high and much too quickly there. Around all dogs. And as much as I enjoy the semiotics of backwoods.

It's a paradox of growing up I wish we could skip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Catherine - I think the flames leapt too high and much too quickly there. Around all dogs. And as much as I enjoy the semiotics of backwoods.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a paradox of growing up I wish we could skip.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9168</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-9168</guid>
		<description>Part of me loves that The Grove is growing up and venturing into the bickering phase. But part of me thinks this is the kind of back and forth that has sent many a smart people away from more established community blogs.

Surely there's another way ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of me loves that The Grove is growing up and venturing into the bickering phase. But part of me thinks this is the kind of back and forth that has sent many a smart people away from more established community blogs.</p>
<p>Surely there&#8217;s another way &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-8828</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-8828</guid>
		<description>Wow again... I'm blown away by these attacks. Of course, now that it's down to outright subjectivity, I'll just say I disagree with you both. As I said before, I tried to conduct an interview that would find out more about how the BR's view themselves. That question was needed, and I think they answered it honestly. You two seem to think I was trying to insult them.    

Now, I don't think the word "borderline" is a code word that always implies negativity. Read Shea's piece and decide for yourself. 

I find that the accussations of pretentiousness in both your replies are rather... pretentious. 

I think where I'm from does indeed matter in this issue, b/c Shea's reply is clearly an attempt to make a mockery of my own background.

In the future, I'll make sure I anglicize all my word use so as not to offend any gentle vernacular senses.

That being said, I think what upsets me most is that Shea's response actually has nothing to do with the interview itself, nor does yours. It has to do with my opinion of her writing. To that, I say get over it. To others, I say try to grasp the good of the overall interview, which Adam and Tiff told me was one of the most thought-provoking that they've had.

Again, I'm sorry if you don't like it, but you can't assume the whole thing is bad due to one writer's opinion of my observations of her work, or b/c I spelled a word wrong in your estimation. That's just downright ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow again&#8230; I&#8217;m blown away by these attacks. Of course, now that it&#8217;s down to outright subjectivity, I&#8217;ll just say I disagree with you both. As I said before, I tried to conduct an interview that would find out more about how the BR&#8217;s view themselves. That question was needed, and I think they answered it honestly. You two seem to think I was trying to insult them.    </p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t think the word &#8220;borderline&#8221; is a code word that always implies negativity. Read Shea&#8217;s piece and decide for yourself. </p>
<p>I find that the accussations of pretentiousness in both your replies are rather&#8230; pretentious. </p>
<p>I think where I&#8217;m from does indeed matter in this issue, b/c Shea&#8217;s reply is clearly an attempt to make a mockery of my own background.</p>
<p>In the future, I&#8217;ll make sure I anglicize all my word use so as not to offend any gentle vernacular senses.</p>
<p>That being said, I think what upsets me most is that Shea&#8217;s response actually has nothing to do with the interview itself, nor does yours. It has to do with my opinion of her writing. To that, I say get over it. To others, I say try to grasp the good of the overall interview, which Adam and Tiff told me was one of the most thought-provoking that they&#8217;ve had.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m sorry if you don&#8217;t like it, but you can&#8217;t assume the whole thing is bad due to one writer&#8217;s opinion of my observations of her work, or b/c I spelled a word wrong in your estimation. That&#8217;s just downright ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-8816</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.groveproject.org/2008/04/25/at-home-with-the-barnraisers/#comment-8816</guid>
		<description>I don't have a dog in this fight, and I haven't read the article referred to.  I will say in Shea's defense, David, that I would certainly have taken offense, were I she, at your characterization of her "written dialect," in the question you asked in your interview, as "borderline backwoods."  It's not the backwoods itself that set my fine hairs on alert, it's the "borderline," which is a code word for something that the two parties to the communication implicitly agree is not desirable.  You wouldn't hear someone described as "borderline sane," but as "borderline crazy," for example.  It doesn't matter where you yourself are from, when you insult someone's work in that way, they do take offense.  In your reply, your true feelings are confirmed when you further describe " the very stereotypes you inanely think are cute and lovey-dovey."

That aside, I actually stopped reading the post originally when I got to the first line of the first question.  I rarely find anything further of value in a piece of writing that confuses "chic" with "sheik," not once but twice, especially in a question dripping with pretentious scenester posing - the very epitome of "hipper-than-thou."  

You may be from the South, but the original post makes you sound very much like the snob you describe, except that upstate New York necks are generally redder than those 'round these parts, so that attempted stereotypical description was just inane.  And lest anyone presume, I have lived in both places as well as several others, but my roots are just as Eastern North Carolina as anyone's can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a dog in this fight, and I haven&#8217;t read the article referred to.  I will say in Shea&#8217;s defense, David, that I would certainly have taken offense, were I she, at your characterization of her &#8220;written dialect,&#8221; in the question you asked in your interview, as &#8220;borderline backwoods.&#8221;  It&#8217;s not the backwoods itself that set my fine hairs on alert, it&#8217;s the &#8220;borderline,&#8221; which is a code word for something that the two parties to the communication implicitly agree is not desirable.  You wouldn&#8217;t hear someone described as &#8220;borderline sane,&#8221; but as &#8220;borderline crazy,&#8221; for example.  It doesn&#8217;t matter where you yourself are from, when you insult someone&#8217;s work in that way, they do take offense.  In your reply, your true feelings are confirmed when you further describe &#8221; the very stereotypes you inanely think are cute and lovey-dovey.&#8221;</p>
<p>That aside, I actually stopped reading the post originally when I got to the first line of the first question.  I rarely find anything further of value in a piece of writing that confuses &#8220;chic&#8221; with &#8220;sheik,&#8221; not once but twice, especially in a question dripping with pretentious scenester posing - the very epitome of &#8220;hipper-than-thou.&#8221;  </p>
<p>You may be from the South, but the original post makes you sound very much like the snob you describe, except that upstate New York necks are generally redder than those &#8217;round these parts, so that attempted stereotypical description was just inane.  And lest anyone presume, I have lived in both places as well as several others, but my roots are just as Eastern North Carolina as anyone&#8217;s can be.</p>
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