Comments on: It was the wine talking http://www.groveproject.org/2007/11/09/it-was-the-wine-talking/ A concentration of local citizen journalists Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:49:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Ian http://www.groveproject.org/2007/11/09/it-was-the-wine-talking/#comment-66 Ian Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:30:53 +0000 http://www.groveproject.org/2007/11/09/it-was-the-wine-talking/#comment-66 Yes, Ranald, you're pointing out something in this piece, which is that I felt kindly disposed toward L. but indignant about Ms. F. Why? Not sure. My own prejudices about Europeans and "culture"? My feeling that Americans should know better but Europeans can be forgivably ignorant? The go-go boots? It's a problem -- it's the American Problem, sublimated into a dozen other problems. Our problem. I guess I feel like one thing was a conversation, and the other was...just blather—just some quick, fake bona fides to rationalize the usual close-mindedness. Yes, Ranald, you’re pointing out something in this piece, which is that I felt kindly disposed toward L. but indignant about Ms. F.

Why? Not sure. My own prejudices about Europeans and “culture”? My feeling that Americans should know better but Europeans can be forgivably ignorant? The go-go boots?

It’s a problem — it’s the American Problem, sublimated into a dozen other problems. Our problem.

I guess I feel like one thing was a conversation, and the other was…just blather—just some quick, fake bona fides to rationalize the usual close-mindedness.

]]> By: Ranald http://www.groveproject.org/2007/11/09/it-was-the-wine-talking/#comment-65 Ranald Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:50:50 +0000 http://www.groveproject.org/2007/11/09/it-was-the-wine-talking/#comment-65 And speaking of the 1898 Memorial, there's an event Saturday to commemorate the anniversary of the coup/riot/forced eviction: http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20071109/NEWS/711090422/1004/news01 And speaking of the 1898 Memorial, there’s an event Saturday to commemorate the anniversary of the coup/riot/forced eviction:

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20071109/NEWS/711090422/1004/news01

]]> By: Ranald http://www.groveproject.org/2007/11/09/it-was-the-wine-talking/#comment-64 Ranald Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:58:34 +0000 http://www.groveproject.org/2007/11/09/it-was-the-wine-talking/#comment-64 This reminds me of a bumper sticker my neighbor has -- "Please don't assume I share your prejudices". I'm curious what Ms. Luba's remark was that set the conversation aflame, and wonder why she felt so free to air it in front of strangers in a strange land. As for Ms. Freeman (interesting name for a racist), I guess we know where she comes down on the issue of the 1898 Memorial. Kudos to Ian for taking her to task. While it might be easy to simply ignore her, you'd go away with diminished self-respect. This reminds me of a bumper sticker my neighbor has — “Please don’t assume I share your prejudices”. I’m curious what Ms. Luba’s remark was that set the conversation aflame, and wonder why she felt so free to air it in front of strangers in a strange land. As for Ms. Freeman (interesting name for a racist), I guess we know where she comes down on the issue of the 1898 Memorial. Kudos to Ian for taking her to task. While it might be easy to simply ignore her, you’d go away with diminished self-respect.

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